Mix-N-Match Question

Well, thank you for the reply.

I would be interested in the reasons why the remote on-off feature was discontinued. I can certainly appreciate some of the technical challenges it posed, but that was 2003-2004 technology. For a little comparison, think about what modern cell-phones are expected to do for days.

Of course I recognize that I’m only speaking to the support staff. I also understand that the market for training aids for sport dogs is much more lucrative than that for service dogs. Still, we do exist, and we need longevity more than sheer range. A sports dog only needs to work for several hours; whereas, a true service dog never totally goes off duty. I can easily foresee needing my dog in the dead of night for some minor emergency, and, while the five-second XL power-up sequence doesn’t seem onerous, finding the collar and putting it on in the dark might be another matter! I am well aware of the TTS precautions about wearing the collars full-time. They make sense with dogs with sensitive skin, or with short-haired breeds. However, on breeds such as true German Shepherds with extremely thick neck hair, this problem doesn’t seem to exist. In fact, only having the collars worn when in use leads to a phenomena where the dog becomes “collar wise,” and only performs when the collar is on. TTS clearly recognizes this issue, because they sell dummy collars also. The catch in that solution is that a collar still must be on the dog.

Officially, TTS sells their products as training aids. Nobody seems to recognize that most of those products can also be used as “control aids” on dogs working out in the real word. I don’t really mean the stimulation, but the tones and any other neutral cues offered. I am training my girl to regard the tone on her G2 collars as a long-distance recall. I could use tones for other behaviors too if they were offered. Can you imagine how wildly popular a product with multiple neutral cues would be? Not only would people with service dogs want it, but so would owners of sport dogs, law enforcement, and the military would probably drive a tank through your front door and demand your entire stock. Such a product would be truly stealthy command and control. Come on TTS, wake up and get busy.

From: TTSupport [mailto:TTSupport@garmin.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2012 10:59
To: royall@conchbbs.com
Subject: RE: Mix-N-Match Question

Scott,

Thank you for your email.

The XLS series of Tri Tronics training equipment was built in 2004 and discontinued in 2005 when the G2 systems came out. The manual for the XLS series can be found on our Website under Customer Service/Owner Manuals and Guides. It is in the left hand column the 10th item down.

The 2 main difference with the XL and XLS is that the XLS turned on with a button on the collar and was a trickle charge system. The XL was the last system made that the receiver turned on and off with the transmitter. We stopped making the XL in 2003 when it was replaced with the XLS.

Unfortunately we no longer have parts or repairs for the systems built prior to the G2.

Each new system developed is not designed to work with previous systems and are designed to provide newer and better technology for the collars.

The G2 and G3 series are designed to be left on and stored right on the chargers in charge mode to assure proper and optimum performance. We do not recommend leaving the receivers on the dogs more than 10 hours.

If I can help with any other questions please feel free to contact us.

Thank you

Dulaine

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Ari Update

Damir,

I am not one of those people who believes a dog must be trained as a puppy to reach virtually all of its potential. Of course a puppy learns quicker, but it also has so much more to learn. A young adult at least presumably knows what is socially acceptable. I think Ari will get to where she needs to be. It will take awhile, because we have been unteaching bad habits she’s already learned. As this trainer says, Ari doesn’t emotionally shutdown if she’s corrected for a mistake. She may yelp once, but then she’s ready to learn the right way.

I’m sending along a couple of photographs of Ari and I that I had professionally taken today. Ari doesn’t have Lilly’s instinct for posing for the camera, but we still got some decent shots.

I admit to being something of a snob, because I love it when my fellow Americans go crazy over Ari in public. Very few of them have seen a real *German* German Shepherd so Ari comes as quite a surprise to them. Even the trainer says other owners spend thousands to get their dogs into the physical condition Ari is in.

I was surprised to learn you only had two producing males, but then I remembered how many puppies one male can sire in a year. As you say, that’s only part of your business too. Still, it’s very sad to lose both Ron and Jasko. Rest peacefully, guys.

Scott

From: FunkenSpiel [mailto:funkenspiel@inet.hr]
Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2012 04:21
To: royall@conchbbs.com
Subject: Re: Ari Update

Hello Scott,

we’re always very glad to get an update from You, I’m very glad that You have found a good, experienced trainer and that means the world to You and Ari.

If she was with a good trainer from the start she could go much further, but better late then ever, I believe she’ll develope a good portion of her potential now.

Just to be clear both of our males pased away from non genetic illneses. Roni paste away form kindey disease that he developed on training abroad and it was too late to save him.

Jasko was a sire in good years and he passed away in coowners kennel. It was pretty hard on us but that’s life, we have other young dogs coming up.

Damir

Ari Update

Damir,

I am not one of those people who believes a dog must be trained as a puppy to reach virtually all of its potential. Of course a puppy learns quicker, but it also has so much more to learn. A young adult at least presumably knows what is socially acceptable. I think Ari will get to where she needs to be. It will take awhile, because we have been unteaching bad habits she’s already learned. As this trainer says, Ari doesn’t emotionally shutdown if she’s corrected for a mistake. She may yelp once, but then she’s ready to learn the right way.

I’m sending along a couple of photographs of Ari and I that I had professionally taken today. Ari doesn’t have Lilly’s instinct for posing for the camera, but we still got some decent shots.

I admit to being something of a snob, because I love it when my fellow Americans go crazy over Ari in public. Very few of them have seen a real *German* German Shepherd so Ari comes as quite a surprise to them. Even the trainer says other owners spend thousands to get their dogs into the physical condition Ari is in.

I was surprised to learn you only had two producing males, but then I remembered how many puppies one male can sire in a year. As you say, that’s only part of your business too. Still, it’s very sad to lose both Ron and Jasko. Rest peacefully, guys.

Scott

From: FunkenSpiel [mailto:funkenspiel@inet.hr]
Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2012 04:21
To: royall@conchbbs.com
Subject: Re: Ari Update

Hello Scott,

we’re always very glad to get an update from You, I’m very glad that You have found a good, experienced trainer and that means the world to You and Ari.

If she was with a good trainer from the start she could go much further, but better late then ever, I believe she’ll develope a good portion of her potential now.

Just to be clear both of our males pased away from non genetic illneses. Roni paste away form kindey disease that he developed on training abroad and it was too late to save him.

Jasko was a sire in good years and he passed away in coowners kennel. It was pretty hard on us but that’s life, we have other young dogs coming up.

Damir